Comments on: The Case For Israel: Democracy’s Outpost http://www.oyvagoy.com/2009/06/22/the-case-for-israel-democracys-outpost/ The philosemitic blog of author and journalist Chas Newkey-Burden, from the UK Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:00:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: LanceThruster http://www.oyvagoy.com/2009/06/22/the-case-for-israel-democracys-outpost/comment-page-1/#comment-2508 LanceThruster Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:00:00 +0000 http://www.oyvagoy.com/?p=2226#comment-2508 Interesting that "Harry's Place" stopped posting my replies. Seems they shy away from open discussion. I guess it's just that much harder to make your case when you can't control the narrative. Interesting that “Harry’s Place” stopped posting my replies. Seems they shy away from open discussion. I guess it’s just that much harder to make your case when you can’t control the narrative.

]]> By: LanceThruster http://www.oyvagoy.com/2009/06/22/the-case-for-israel-democracys-outpost/comment-page-1/#comment-2461 LanceThruster Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:55:57 +0000 http://www.oyvagoy.com/?p=2226#comment-2461 As far as Dershowitz’s so-called “brilliance” goes, I’d suggest that you read Frank J. Menetrez’s “Dershowitz v. Finkelstein: Who’s Right and Who’s Wrong”. http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/dershowitz-v-finkelstein-whos-right-and-whos-wrong/ This brings Dershowitz’s credibility into question quite persuasively. I consider Dershowitz an apoligist for torture and other criminal behavior while I see Pres. Carter and Dr. Finkelstein as men of great intellect, integrity, and compassion. I think history will bear this out as Israel at some point will no longer be able to maintain their race-centered state. As far as Dershowitz’s so-called “brilliance” goes, I’d suggest that you read Frank J. Menetrez’s “Dershowitz v. Finkelstein: Who’s Right and Who’s Wrong”.

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/dershowitz-v-finkelstein-whos-right-and-whos-wrong/

This brings Dershowitz’s credibility into question quite persuasively.

I consider Dershowitz an apoligist for torture and other criminal behavior while I see Pres. Carter and Dr. Finkelstein as men of great intellect, integrity, and compassion. I think history will bear this out as Israel at some point will no longer be able to maintain their race-centered state.

]]> By: Monkeytrousers http://www.oyvagoy.com/2009/06/22/the-case-for-israel-democracys-outpost/comment-page-1/#comment-2460 Monkeytrousers Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:10:03 +0000 http://www.oyvagoy.com/?p=2226#comment-2460 Someone should send a copy to Ken Loach. Someone should send a copy to Ken Loach.

]]> By: Sally Morris http://www.oyvagoy.com/2009/06/22/the-case-for-israel-democracys-outpost/comment-page-1/#comment-2459 Sally Morris Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:38:55 +0000 http://www.oyvagoy.com/?p=2226#comment-2459 Alan Dershowitz is a great man. Alan Dershowitz is a great man.

]]> By: Chas Newkey-Burden http://www.oyvagoy.com/2009/06/22/the-case-for-israel-democracys-outpost/comment-page-1/#comment-2457 Chas Newkey-Burden Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:25:01 +0000 http://www.oyvagoy.com/?p=2226#comment-2457 Hahaha! Hahaha!

]]> By: Clawes http://www.oyvagoy.com/2009/06/22/the-case-for-israel-democracys-outpost/comment-page-1/#comment-2456 Clawes Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:16:27 +0000 http://www.oyvagoy.com/?p=2226#comment-2456 "I remember reading his superb book The Case For Israel...It was a key moment in turning me further away from the widespread default position of liberal British gentiles: a well-meant but ill-informed, lazily arrived-at, loosely pro-Palestinian position." Yeah, that's basically me as well, after I had the good fortune of seeing him speak at uni. He's such a champ. It must be possible to come up with a drinking game for the Dershowitz film: I'm thinking a shot everytime your heart swells when you're filled with pride for Israel, and a shot for everytime you hear another Zionist lie. That way you get to have a shot at the same time as your pro-Palestine pals, and no one gets accused of instituting an 'alcoholic apartheid system'! “I remember reading his superb book The Case For Israel…It was a key moment in turning me further away from the widespread default position of liberal British gentiles: a well-meant but ill-informed, lazily arrived-at, loosely pro-Palestinian position.”

Yeah, that’s basically me as well, after I had the good fortune of seeing him speak at uni. He’s such a champ.

It must be possible to come up with a drinking game for the Dershowitz film: I’m thinking a shot everytime your heart swells when you’re filled with pride for Israel, and a shot for everytime you hear another Zionist lie. That way you get to have a shot at the same time as your pro-Palestine pals, and no one gets accused of instituting an ‘alcoholic apartheid system’!

]]> By: James Freeman http://www.oyvagoy.com/2009/06/22/the-case-for-israel-democracys-outpost/comment-page-1/#comment-2455 James Freeman Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:33:13 +0000 http://www.oyvagoy.com/?p=2226#comment-2455 I didn't even know about this film either. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. I didn’t even know about this film either. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

]]> By: Chas Newkey-Burden http://www.oyvagoy.com/2009/06/22/the-case-for-israel-democracys-outpost/comment-page-1/#comment-2453 Chas Newkey-Burden Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:38:36 +0000 http://www.oyvagoy.com/?p=2226#comment-2453 Thanks Avi! It's a brilliant movie and I hope we can all spread the word because I really think that this movie can help change people's minds around the world. Thanks Avi! It’s a brilliant movie and I hope we can all spread the word because I really think that this movie can help change people’s minds around the world.

]]> By: Avi http://www.oyvagoy.com/2009/06/22/the-case-for-israel-democracys-outpost/comment-page-1/#comment-2452 Avi Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:33:35 +0000 http://www.oyvagoy.com/?p=2226#comment-2452 Another brilliant post! Thanks for writing the review, I didn't even know he made a movie. Another brilliant post! Thanks for writing the review, I didn’t even know he made a movie.

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